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Sunday, May 17, 2009

lol, so rigged - and britblogger

From earlier this weekend. Yeah, you can call that an action flop.

Sunday's Brit Blogger follows a pretty standard theme lately.
Nothing amazing happens, I gradually chip up, then lose a big hand for a lot of chips to donk out fairly deep.

The notable hands:

Lucko openshoves KT into my AK, I hold.
I get it in pre with 99 against NumbBono's AK and lose the flip.

I get to the break 19 of 22, but start stealing and chipping up during hour 2.
Finally busto here.

Full Tilt Poker Game #12277854447: Brit Blogger Game (90819033), Table 6 - 80/160 - No Limit Hold'em - 17:21:32 ET - 2009/05/17
Seat 1: Shabazz Jenkins (3,491)
Seat 2: Yikes_1 (4,365)
Seat 3: APOSEC72 (6,614)
Seat 4: smokkee (4,405)
Seat 5: blaargh86 (2,864)
Seat 6: heffmike (2,185)
Seat 7: cracknKK (3,350)
Seat 8: jimdniacc (5,640)
Seat 9: AntonioR111 (2,320)
AntonioR111 posts the small blind of 80
Shabazz Jenkins posts the big blind of 160
The button is in seat #8
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to heffmike [Ah Ad]
Yikes_1 raises to 560
APOSEC72 folds
smokkee folds
blaargh86 folds
heffmike has 15 seconds left to act
heffmike calls 560
cracknKK folds
jimdniacc folds
AntonioR111 folds
Shabazz Jenkins folds
*** FLOP *** [Kh Jd 7s]
Yikes_1 bets 640
heffmike has 15 seconds left to act
heffmike raises to 1,625, and is all in
Yikes_1 calls 985
heffmike shows [Ah Ad]
Yikes_1 shows [Kd Ks]
*** TURN *** [Kh Jd 7s] [5d]
heffmike: lol
*** RIVER *** [Kh Jd 7s 5d] [Ts]
heffmike shows a pair of Aces
Yikes_1 shows three of a kind, Kings
Yikes_1 wins the pot (4,610) with three of a kind, Kings
smokkee: ow
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4,610 | Rake 0
Board: [Kh Jd 7s 5d Ts]
Seat 1: Shabazz Jenkins (big blind) folded before the Flop
Seat 2: Yikes_1 showed [Kd Ks] and won (4,610) with three of a kind, Kings
Seat 3: APOSEC72 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 4: smokkee didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: blaargh86 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: heffmike showed [Ah Ad] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 7: cracknKK didn't bet (folded)
Seat 8: jimdniacc (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: AntonioR111 (small blind) folded before the Flop

I love the line of opening for pot UTG with KK, then leading the nutz on a KJ7r flop. EL-O-EL.

You crush everything. I just called off 25% of my stack pre. Not like there are a lot of scare cards on the turn - even I'm not sitting here with QT or T9.

I can only come over the top with AA/JJ/AK, and I'll bet those for you on the flop anyway - so why scare me off and give me a chance to fold?

Maybe check and see if I monkey try to blow you off the hand? Gee, it's possible for me to do, you know, given history.

Anyway, welcome to coolerville, out 17 of 43. That'll happen.


BLAARGH! said...

hey heff.... I can see a lot more reasons to lead here than just the hands you mention... I'm sure you know you seem aggro to most folks.... so if you hit ANY piece of that I'm sure Yikes knows you will come over the top if he bets. At least, that's what I'd think... having spent some time at the table with Yikes, he was non stop aggro himself, so you just got into an aggro vs. aggro lesbian death match, he just lucked into the bigger strap-on.
gg dude :)

Heffmike said...

With deeper stacks, yeah, I can see leading the flop having more merit - you gotta build a pot to make sure you get the chips in the middle, especially OOP.

In this spot though... I am aggressive to a fault... but what kinds of hands am I flatting for a quarter of my stack preflop? Pocket pairs, AK, maybe AQ, AJ/KQ/QJ/JT when I'm feeling stupid. Not much else makes a lot of sense against an unknown UTG raiser in a blogger tourney.

So he flops the nutz, and donk-leads a drawless flop. Yikes should realize I'm never folding postflop in this spot unless I have TT with three overs on board or completely whiff AK on the flop - so this is a really bad spot to bluff. He should have a hand.

So, if I shove, I gotta showdown a winner. I can fold AQ/AJ/TT/99, and may even fold QQ to a donkbet.... but I probably will shove those hands if checked to. Obviously, everything else I can have (AA/AK/JJ) gets it in the middle no matter what line he takes.

I'm just saying, leading this flop stops me from betting into Yikes in a spot where I will do it almost every time I'm checked to. If I do check behind, I'm drawing so thin to 2-4 outs it doesn't really matter and I'm probably not giving any further action anyway, so no big loss.

As it was, I briefly considered folding because I was smelling KK, but AK is equally likely and I'm not bad enough to fold AA postflop in a raised pot with 15BB. Like an AA vs. KK hand is all that interesting anyways...

If the general view out there is I could get to the flop and shove with AJ or 87 or KJ or 99... I like that image... :-)

1Queens Up1 said...

This has to be a first, the outcome of the hand wasn't going to change yet you are perturbed he bet into you instead of check-raising, right?

What hand are you putting him on if he bets into that flop and you still come over the top?

Regarding your comment at the table yesterday. TJ had 425 chips total, I had an entirely crapless hand, 9-4o I believe, and im on the button. The previous 2 orbits on my button I bet enough to put TJ all-in, this time I thought Muchtim might do it, he didnt so TJ gained 100 chips. Could I/Should I have put TJ in a 3rd time in a row? Sure. But eventually he's going to be all in with high blinds why double him when I dont have to?

Heffmike said...

Not really perturbed at all... just surprised he bet into me instead of letting me bluff off my stack. Seems less than ideal. All the chips were getting into the middle anyway regardless whether I shove pre, check the flop, or do a little dance, so w/e in the long run.

He has two cards if he leads that flop into me - I would say AA-JJ,AK, but he can check or bet those hands, it really doesn't matter. It's a great move if he bluff-leads with TT/99/AQ and I fold QQ/AJ - but I'm probably not showing up there with those hands to begin with.

To be honest, I don't care what he has, I'm shoving the flop anyway whether he bets or not. If I want to level myself and overthink it, I can, but for 15BB just get it in with the ace and ace.

Re TJ... he's obviously folding into the points from three tables in, I don't care if you have a Joker and UNO card, you can't give a guy a walk when he's got half his stack in the pot in the big blind and might actually fold given the situation - don't laugh, he was on my right at the previous table and folded his small blind to me way too many times to count in spots I couldn't call a raise/shove, period.

Far more of an error in Muchtim's spot than yours, as he already has chips in the pot and is really priced in, but I saw it happen twice after I bustoed and couldn't understand how both you guys let that happen.

1Queens Up1 said...

Yeah no matter all the chips were getting in, just a matter of conjecture on the best way for him to do it. Meh.

I did notice TJ folding on his BB when he clearly should have been trying to chip up, so I knew he was folding for points. However, it would be much worse IMO to double him up unneccesarily with ATC when I have no involvement with the pot.
I took him out just a few hands later anyway so it was moot, but I understand your point about chasing him in the standings.