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Monday, February 16, 2009

this Omaha thing may have a future....

When I was looking at the NYRambler tonite, I thought it was a six-max PLO shootout.... NOT a heads up tourney. Bad Heff not reading the blog, but seeing Shootout in the tourney lobby without noticing the little 2 next to it... So anyway, I don't play a lot of PLO, mostly PLO8, but hey, I don't mind a heads-up tourney every now and again....

Played Blyght first round and ran really really well - so I had the match well under control and finished it off in 30 minutes...
I'm up over 2-1 in chips, he pots his button to 240, I gambool/repot with AcKcQcQd, he shoves with AhAsKs6c. I call and flop a flush draw that gets there on the river.

Had some time to wait around for the round of eight, and I draw Hoyazo... which was a fun, albeit quick match. 100BB, pshaw. It lasted 10 hands. I hit the first 7 flops one way or another and got out to a small chip lead. Then I really hit the eighth one...

Full Tilt Poker Game #10677578195: NYRPS Event #12 (67718054), Table 3 - 15/30 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 22:56:21 ET - 2009/02/16
Seat 1: heffmike (3,195)
Seat 2: hoyazo (2,805)
heffmike posts the small blind of 15
hoyazo posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to heffmike [8c 2h 6d 8h]
heffmike calls 15
hoyazo checks
*** FLOP *** [7h 3s 8d] - whee
hoyazo checks
heffmike bets 60 - (lead your hands in PLO.)
hoyazo has 15 seconds left to act
hoyazo raises to 240 - (can be doing this with a wide range..)
heffmike has 15 seconds left to act
heffmike raises to 780 - (so keep building it with top set on a rainbow board. Hoy may have a wrap easily here, but it doesn't have to get there on the turn.... Maybe he monkeys his stack off with 77xx or AAxx or misclicks, whatever.)
hoyazo has 15 seconds left to act
hoyazo calls 540 - (well, now I've got to assume a draw of some sort for him, and he's got to put me on a set/wrap, or top two at the very least.)
*** TURN *** [7h 3s 8d] [Js]
hoyazo checks
heffmike checks (I hate free cards, but I don't think he has spades - If I bet, I can't see where he gives me action at all with anything other that JJxx or T9xx. I'm still deep stacked here. So, I decide to check, which is probably bad because.....)
*** RIVER *** [7h 3s 8d Js] [9s]
hoyazo bets 1,620 (Arrgh, this is such a GREAT card to donkbet, either as a bluff or for value. My hand is so defined now - I shouldn't have a flush, it would be the silliest check behind ever on the turn with T9 - he knows I can't call with most of my holdings. I really feel like hero-calling here, though.)
heffmike has 15 seconds left to act
heffmike has requested TIME
heffmike: you have no flush, but why am I still worried. (not that he'll give me anything in chat, but couldn't hurt)
heffmike folds
Uncalled bet of 1,620 returned to hoyazo
hoyazo mucks
hoyazo wins the pot (1,620)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 1,620 | Rake 0
Board: [7h 3s 8d Js 9s]
Seat 1: heffmike (small blind) folded on the River
Seat 2: hoyazo (big blind) collected (1,620), mucked

I get valuetowned so bad the next hand..

Full Tilt Poker Game #10677610856: NYRPS Event #12 (67718054), Table 3 - 15/30 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 22:58:08 ET - 2009/02/16
Seat 1: heffmike (2,385)
Seat 2: hoyazo (3,615)
hoyazo posts the small blind of 15
heffmike posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to heffmike [5h 9h Ad 6c]
hoyazo calls 15
heffmike checks
*** FLOP *** [Js 8s 5s]
heffmike checks
hoyazo checks
*** TURN *** [Js 8s 5s] [2d]
heffmike checks
hoyazo checks
*** RIVER *** [Js 8s 5s 2d] [5d]
heffmike bets 60 (there's no reason to do this, and if it wasn't a limped pot, I'd just check-call here)
hoyazo raises to 240
heffmike calls 180 (I guess A5 can be good here every now and again)
*** SHOW DOWN ***
hoyazo shows [Ts 8c 2c 8h] a full house, Eights full of Fives
heffmike mucks
hoyazo wins the pot (540) with a full house, Eights full of Fives
The blinds are now 20/40
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 540 | Rake 0
Board: [Js 8s 5s 2d 5d]
Seat 1: heffmike (big blind) mucked [5h 9h Ad 6c] - three of a kind, Fives
Seat 2: hoyazo (small blind) showed [Ts 8c 2c 8h] and won (540) with a full house, Eights full of Fives

And finally go busto here.

Full Tilt Poker Game #10677621865: NYRPS Event #12 (67718054), Table 3 - 20/40 - Pot Limit Omaha Hi - 22:58:45 ET - 2009/02/16
Seat 1: heffmike (2,115)
Seat 2: hoyazo (3,885)
heffmike posts the small blind of 20
hoyazo posts the big blind of 40
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to heffmike [8c Js Jc Qh]
heffmike calls 20
hoyazo has 15 seconds left to act
hoyazo raises to 120
heffmike calls 80 (w/e, I could flop good)
*** FLOP *** [5s 7h Jd] (like that)
hoyazo bets 240
heffmike raises to 960 (standard repot)
hoyazo calls 720 (hmm, more on this below)
*** TURN *** [5s 7h Jd] [6s]
hoyazo checks
heffmike bets 1,035, and is all in
hoyazo calls 1,035
heffmike shows [8c Js Jc Qh]
hoyazo shows [As 8h Ah 4h]
*** RIVER *** [5s 7h Jd 6s] [Kc]
heffmike shows three of a kind, Jacks
hoyazo shows a straight, Eight high
hoyazo wins the pot (4,230) with a straight, Eight high
hoyazo: gg
heffmike stands up
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 4,230 | Rake 0
Board: [5s 7h Jd 6s Kc]
Seat 1: heffmike (small blind) showed [8c Js Jc Qh] and lost with three of a kind, Jacks
Seat 2: hoyazo (big blind) showed [As 8h Ah 4h] and won (4,230) with a straight, Eight high

Standard cooler - somehow I just knew that 6 on the turn gave him a straight, but I'm in too deep now and the board can always pair on the river.... So that'll happen...

But going back to calling the flop raise. - Here's the interesting thing - and granted, I don't play PLO a lot, so I could be way off here, but indulge me..

You raise preflop, lede the flop and get raised on a dry ass flop. Maybe villain is monkey tilting with KKxx, but almost every time the blind will have two pair or a set - sometimes a low wrap - basically, they've got AA notched pretty good. So, your redraws...

Well, if the board pairs, villain's set just filled up, and when villain has two pair, 2/3rds of the time he just improved to a full house as well - only 1/3rd of the time your Aces Up are actually good.

You have a backdoor heart draw, but you will have to call a shove on almost every turn, especially with half of the villain's stack already in.

Even most low cards (3,4,8,9) are going to complete a wrap if villain is being a complete gambooler.. and if not, they're blanks to both hands and don't matter anyway.

Your two clean outs are the remaining aces. A six makes your gutterball, but you'll have to fade the river regardless.

I just don't know if your redraws are good enough in this particular spot to call the flop raise when you'll have to call a shove on virtually every turn, even getting 3-1 on it. It looks great when you bink it, though.

Thoughts welcome on all hands, because I have no idea if this makes any sense to anyone who actually understands PLO...

Heff

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